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A Look At John Titor’s Most Popular Predictions

John Titor’s story was painted in the dulcet, midnight colors of Coast to Coast AM, driven by a community’s desire to believe, if just for a moment, that time travel was possible.

Over the years, the mythology became mired, polluted by impostors and opportunists. The story of the story took center stage, outshining what we originally found so compelling.

But how has John Titor himself, as we knew him then, fared?

Let’s find out. Let’s look at his most well known predictions, the ones that make your hair stand on end, or cause you to laugh at their outrageousness. In no particular order.

But remember: We shouldn’t call them “predictions.” They’re statements of “fact” from the point of view of a time traveler.

Reflections of an individual’s past that were never guaranteed to become our future.

1. A Devastating Nuclear War

John Titor & Nuclear War

A World War in 2015 killed nearly 3 billion people.

We’ll begin with one of the few Titor predictions we’ve yet to reach, simply by virtue of it still being in the future.

John Titor allegedly began his journey in 2036. He’d grown up in Florida, and experienced both a domestic conflict and a worldwide nuclear war. Their effects were disastrous, and much of Titor’s story involves his contempt for the people of our time period; he viewed us as sheep who did nothing to prevent the horrors that followed.

2015 is three years away, and steadily approaching. Is there a scenario brewing that may lead us down this dark path?

In the context of Titor’s predictions, perhaps not — his other, far-reaching statements, such as those about a coming Civil War in the United States, never happened (“There is a Civil War in the United States that starts in 2005”). But modern tensions today that did not exist in 2000-2001 do give pause.

These tensions involve the growing conflict with Iran about their nuclear weapons program, and threats that Israel may launch their own unilateral attack on the country very soon (Read: Israelis seem resigned to a strike on Iran)

The Middle East, already near the breaking point, has experienced violent protests in Syria and Egypt, and an indefinite occupation of the region by the United States. The situation is already bad, but it’s not difficult to imagine it becoming worse. Far worse.

2. Deception Leading To The Iraq War

John Titor & The Iraq War

None of the things I have said will be a surprise. They were set in motion ten, twenty, even thirty years ago. Are you really surprised to find out that Iraq has nukes now or is that just BS to whip everyone up into accepting the next war?

This is one of a few John Titor quotes that always jumps out at people.

It’s true that the Middle East has, in recent history (and naturally before Titor’s posts), experienced anything but peace. But the specificity of Titor’s remarks regarding not only the Iraq War, but the deception about Weapons Of Mass Destruction hits the nail on the head a little too hard to be ignored.

Titor also made statements like “As far as war goes, I have faith you are quite capable of starting one all by yourself,” and “In the grand scheme of things, the war in the Middle East is a part of what’s to come, not the cause.” Always implying that a long, drawn out battle was on the horizon.

Was this nothing more than simple foresight driven by (then-) contemporary views on foreign policy? I suppose thoughts of a renewed conflict in the Middle East were not farfetched, as the war in Iraq has a history that stretches well beyond the events of 9/11.

However, of all the alleged time travelers who have come and gone, these remarks make John Titor one of a kind.

3. The 2008 Olympics: Cancelled

As a result of the many conflicts, no, there were no official Olympics after 2004.

Of course, Titor didn’t always hit the mark.

The 2008 Olympics, which were ultimately held in Beijing, China, still happened. However, do you remember how close they came to not happening?

During the lead up to the Olympics, Tibetan protests spread throughout Chinese provinces, with calls for independence and the return of the Dalai Lama. Many wondered if this would interfere with the Olympics, leading to a boycott (Read: Police tighten grip; China says Olympics won’t be disrupted)

This is, of course, slightly twisting Titor’s words. He mentioned “many conflicts,” most likely implying that civil unrest leading up to the war rendered the Olympics impractical and unwanted.

But remember: Titor mentioned a slight divergence, anywhere from 1-2.5%, which could make all the difference in the world.

4. The Hidden Functions of the IBM 5100

John Titor & The IBM 5100

You mean other than the mad cow pandemic, the breakthroughs in high-energy physics and the unknown functions of the 5100?

We’ve already talked about Titor’s connections to the IBM 5100. It’s true that, at the time of his posting, the hidden functionality of the IBM 5100 portable computer was unknown to the average consumer. Especially around 2000-2001, the average person wouldn’t have known such an obscure detail.

On the other hand, Titor’s statements about a “mad cow pandemic” and “breakthroughs in high-energy physics” are somewhat murkier.

There was mild panic regarding Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, or CJD (the human form of mad cow disease). However, this was quite a few years ago, and nothing I’d call a pandemic.

The unfortunate thing, however, is that CJD has a potential gestation period of decades, meaning if there was a massive spread of the illness that occurred 10 or even 20 years ago, we still wouldn’t know about it.

As for “high-energy physics,” new breakthroughs at CERN — which is almost its own character in the John Titor saga — may lead to some extraordinary outcomes. More specifically, Titor said:

Some very interesting things will be going on at CERN in the near future.

The Higgs Boson. Faster-than-light neutrinos. Whether or not anything comes of this, it’s too early to tell, but the forward march of progress continues. As the LHC ramps up its energy, who knows what we’ll discover.

5. An Overheating Space Plane

John Titor & The Space Shuttle Columbia Disaster

Care to share with me how you solved the overheating problem on your space plane?

This is another one of Titor’s statements that often raises eyebrows. What’s most curious to me is his use of the phrase “space plane.” If he had been referring to a shuttle, why not say shuttle?

That said, many view this comment as an allusion to the Columbia space shuttle disaster in 2003, which occurred after a piece of foam struck the shuttle’s left wing during take-off. Upon re-entry, superheated air breached the damaged wing, leading to the ultimate disintegration of the shuttle.

6. Russia & China

Russia and China have always had a very strange relationship. Even the news I see now indicates that continued weapons deals to allies, border clashes and overpopulation will lead to hostilities. The West will become very unstable which gives China the confidence to “expand.”

China has grown exponentially, while the United States and much of the west has been hit by economic turmoil and civil unrest. I’m not sure we’re at the point of being regarded as unstable, but given the relatively prosperous economic climate of the 1990s, mainstream thought in 2000-2001 would not have predicted this falling house of cards.

Even our relations with Russia and China are heating up again, thanks to the current situation with Iran. Furthermore, Titor said:

I believe they [China] are pretty close to putting a man in orbit. It should not surprise you if they do that soon.

Done and done. China put a man in orbit in October 2003, and continues to make strides in what now appears to be a one-country space race. Meanwhile, the NASA budget continues to dwindle.

7. A Growing Civil Unrest

John Titor & The Occupy Wall Street Protests

They will be the ones arresting and holding people without due process.

One of the greatest themes of John Titor’s story was the ultimate decline of western civilization, and the increasing number of civil conflicts within the United States leading up to an all-out war in 2005.

Without diving headfirst into the dark and sordid world of U.S. politics, policies such as the Patriot Act and the NDAA do point in this direction, and the U.S. Government has continued to grow since 9/11. Future legislation like SOPA, PIPA, and the already-signed ACTA slowly chip away at the average citizen’s rights, making way for massive corporations to swoop in and claim, well, everything.

The years may be off, but I wouldn’t disregard Titor’s statements about civil strife just yet.

Titor also stated the following:

The President or ‘leader’ in 2005 I believe tried desperately to be the next Lincoln and hold the country together but many of their policies drove a larger wedge into the Bill of Rights. The President in 2009 was interested only in keeping his/her power base.

Our President in 2005 was George W. Bush, but I can’t help but think of President Obama when Titor alludes to someone trying to be a unifying Lincoln figure.

Barack Obama seemed like the kind of candidate who wanted to unite America, to bring about change and fix the system. It can be argued that he failed, but it can also be argued that any actual attempt to “fix” our government will ultimately be obstructed, no matter how many promises are made to the common citizen.

The Tea Party and the Occupy Wall Street protestors also come to mind. Riots breaking out around the world and here within our own borders. A poor economy. The increasing role of government in our lives. Perhaps the most telling of John Titor’s statements about civil liberties was this:

The conflict was not about taking and holding ground it was about order and rights. They were betting that people wanted security instead of freedom and they were wrong.

8. A Tale Of Many Worlds

John Titor & The Many-world interpretation

The Many Worlds Theory seems to wrap up very nicely into current string theory. Unfortunately, we have not solved string theory yet either but (n-10) seems to be the best working model we have in 2036. As you are probably aware, the “big equation” does not need the final solution in order to take advantage of the smaller parts that do work in the real world.

Verifying the science behind John Titor’s time machine is a bit complicated. A subject for another time, perhaps.

However, it’s true that Stephen Hawking changed his mind about the nature of black holes and Hawking Radiation not long after Titor showed up.

In his original faxes to Art Bell, Titor stated:

Time travel was invented in 2034. Off shoots of certain successful fusion reactor research allowed scientists at CERN to produce the world’s first contained singularity engine.

The basic design involves rotating singularities inside a magnetic field. By altering the speed and direction of rotation you can travel both forward and backward in time.

The use of black holes as described by Titor clashed with contemporary understandings of how they work, namely that microsingularities would evaporate before you’d be able to do anything with them.

However, in 2004, Hawking revised his theory, bringing it in line with Titor’s comments on the nature of Hawking radiation.

Another interesting statement of Titor’s that jumped out at me:

It is believed that all worldlines end. It is also thought that parallel worldlines that appear to be the same end at different times.

This would, unfortunately, coincide with the existence of a low-mass Higgs Boson scenario, and recent findings at CERN seem to indicate that this may (READ: may) be the case. A low-mass Higgs Boson would indicate that, at any moment, the universe “could spontaneously explode.”

The vision John Titor paints of the multiverse (or, as he refers to it, the “superverse”) is, as I understand it, similar to those fiber optic light spheres (pictured above). Each worldline is a single point that stretches outward infinitely. But some of the lows lines can spontaneously come to an end, independent of the others.

“Time travel” occurs as a result of traveling between those lines. Thus, no paradoxes, as any time traveler would be entering another universe entirely.

Titor also makes several references to the Everett-Wheeler model:

Temporal space-time is made up of every possible quantum state. The Everett Wheeler model is correct.

The Everett-Wheeler model is also known as the theory of the Universal Wavefunction. It’s an attempted explanation for the bizarre wave-like behavior of individual particles in the double-slit experiment, stating that every possible outcome of events always happens, each event splitting off into its own universe to avoid wavefunction collapse. Hence, multiple worldlines.

At the moment, none of this can be verified, but our current path of physics may surprise us, and the Many-worlds interpretation is considered a legitimate possibility.

9. What Makes Time Travel Possible

John Titor & CERN

The general public was informed about time travel around 2034.

And now we’re back to the future. Will we ever gain the ability to travel through time? Titor stated that the mechanisms of time travel would be discovered at CERN with the creation of microsingularities, or miniature black holes.

Titor’s own machine, which he was trained to operate specifically for his mission in 1975, was created by General Electric, and at the time of his departure from 2036, new variations were being designed, with more accurate clocks and far greater precision.

But we, here, cannot tell the future.

To read more about John Titor’s time machine, check out John Titor: The Man With The Machine

The Lessons Of John Titor

For an alleged time traveler posting on Internet forums in 2000 to early 2001, Titor was surprisingly forward-thinking. Whoever this individual was, he foresaw the renewed conflict in the Middle East, the growing tensions within the U.S., and the arrival of certain scientific breakthroughs.

Much of this could have been extrapolated from information already available at the time. Past conflicts, economic foresight, scientific speculation. We can often see the world of tomorrow through the lens of today.

But tomorrow is always changing. Prior to 9/11, I’m not sure how many of us could have envisioned this post-9/11 world. A world which Titor, despite the failure of most of his “predictions,” saw so clearly.

John Titor is, above all else, an interesting character. His finesse at winning the hearts and minds, or otherwise drawing the ire, of Internet goers lies simply in his statement “I don’t want you to believe me.” Perhaps there’s something to be said for reverse psychology after all.

Stripping out the time travel, the bias, the doom and gloom, we’re left with a simple tale of caution and morality, in which we’re warned to keep our minds open, our intentions pure, and our eyes focused only on the truth:

When the day comes for my “prediction” to be realized it will either happen or not. If it does happen, then your ability to judge your environment is crippled by your acceptance of me as a “knower of all things” and gifted with the ability to tell the future. If I am wrong, then everything I have said that might possibly have made you think about your world in a different way is suddenly discredited. I do not want either.

Although I do have personal reasons for being here and speaking with you, the most I could hope for is that you recognize the possibility of time travel as a reality. You are able to change your worldline for better or worse just as I am.

It’s strange how, looking at Titor’s predictions and comparing them to our actual reality, a pattern nearly forms.

If it weren’t for an odd turn here, or a slight shift there, Titor’s world could have become our own.

And who knows, maybe it will.

If our worldline were different by just 2.5%, where would we be?

Images courtesy U.S. Army, NASA, David Shankbone, studebaker2008CERN Photolab, and Marcin Wichary.

About Rob Schwarz

Rob Schwarz is a freelance writer, blogger, and part-time peddler of mysterious tales. Follow him on Twitter @Dimentoid or on Google+, and be sure to like Stranger Dimensions on Facebook!
  • http://twitter.com/ren1999 ren

    Some theorize that John Titor went back to 1973-1975 and just told the guy working on the IBM 5100 dating system how to deal with Y2K.

    • http://www.strangerdimensions.com/ Rob

      You’re absolutely right.

      I neglected to mention it in the post, but John Titor alluded to the fact that Y2K didn’t happen to us because of his interference with our timeline. Just another example of how, in the context of his story, our worldline wouldn’t necessarily become his.

      Thanks for your comment.

  • Dony12345

    The thing that freaked me out about the following statement:

    The President or ‘leader’ in 2005 I believe tried desperately to be the next Lincoln and hold the country together but many of their policies drove a larger wedge into the Bill of Rights. The President in 2009 was interested only in keeping his/her power base.

    George W. Bush made a very big deal about being thought of as “Lincoln” when he left office.  I remember seeing the interview and it immediately made me think of Titor.

    Obama / Hillarry combo =  “his/her” power base.

    Remember if the guy is a time traveller, he’s as biased as the rest of us (human) and may not be remembering things precisely because I have to imagine “history” just post 2015 would be a bit more of a concern to the average person.

    That said if there’s been a “civil war” in the US since 2005… all I can say is you’d have a hard time justifying that statement in a future history textbook.  Maybe 2008 if you were painting with a broad broad brush and some future stuff we haven’t seen yet would heat it up.

    But he makes reference to being in a militia in this time period and that’s clearly not happening.

    • http://www.strangerdimensions.com/ Rob

      I’m totally with you there, Dony.

      I often go back and forth between who I think the “Lincoln” figure could be, and honestly I feel that both Bush and Obama could potentially fit that category, perhaps in different ways. I’ll have to see if I can find that interview you mention, though, because I think I might remember it, too. But I agree — Bush is also very likely, and would fit the time frame better.

      I also mention Titor’s biases here: http://www.strangerdimensions.com/2012/01/19/john-titor-as-an-unreliable-narrator/

      As for the lack of any kind of civil war, yeah, it never happened. You’d have to really stretch Titor’s statements to make any of it fit. BUT things have definitely become a bit more contentious as far as civil protests are concerned. That’s why I always try to frame the Titor mythos within that whole “2.5% divergence” idea.

      You know, things aren’t panning out like Titor said they would, but at the same time you could imagine a scenario in which they might have, if things had gone in just a slightly different direction.

      It’s still fun to talk about, though. Thanks for your comment!

  • Samdhani99

    if  john came from 2036 then he must exist in present world and must be of age 15 years approx so where itold  is he? the john from future didnt told anything about him?

    • http://www.strangerdimensions.com/ Rob

      The person posting as John Titor talked about his family a bit. Allegedly, he was staying with them while he was in our timeline, and even claimed to have taken his younger self on a trip once or twice (if I remember right). He never revealed anything about their identities, though.

      Of course, then you have to remember that whole business with Titor’s “mother” and the book and the family’s lawyer and all that, but I usually try to steer clear of all the post-Titor stuff and just focus on the original story. 

      But if it were true then yeah, young John Titor would be somewhere out there today.

  • Okabe

    Hello,
    I am Brazilian, like your blog, the analysis of the predictions of Titor were great, I think they might be real, and enjoyable to discuss this. I would ask him permission to translate your post and publish it on my blog with the appropriate copyright.

    • Rob Schwarz

      Hello Okabe,

      If you’d like to translate the article into your native language and post it on your own blog, yes, I’d be okay with that.

      However, please provide a link back to this article and let everyone know where to find the original. Thanks!

      Glad you found it interesting!

  • Okabe

    When I do the translation and posting, definitely post the link to this article. Another thing I forgot to mention the previous review. There is an anime called Steins; Gate, great story, involving John Titor and time travel, a “light novel” 25 episodes, gives a look if possible. I really enjoyed the blog, thanks for answering the comment and forgive me for bad English, is that I’m out of time, and I’m using google translator.

    • Rob Schwarz

      No problem!

      I’ve actually heard of Steins; Gate, but I haven’t seen it, yet. I’ve heard good things. I’ll definitely check it out someday.

      Anyway, thanks for visiting and I’m glad you’ve enjoyed the blog.

  • Dony12345

    I always wondered if he gave away the farm on the Y2K thing in this world line (warned the right people). And then I always wondered if he messed up the divergence so badly that he re-materialized in the middle of a US Air Force Base (under the current government) in 2036…

    Or if he’s lost in space trying to correct the divergence…

    • Rob Schwarz

      I always wondered about the divergence, too. I think Titor mentioned once or twice there would be world-lines in which he didn’t return to 2036, rendering the whole mission pointless.

      Really, the worldline divergence itself is almost completely nihilistic, if you think about it — no matter how hard you try at something, there will always be a worldline in which you fail. Your choices and actions have no meaning in 50% of them.

  • bleepingdeadalien

    Get real…you’re all a bunch of losers believing some nut who said he’s from the future.

    • Rob Schwarz

      It’s all for fun. Thanks for stopping by.

  • Pys Chic

    I am a clairvoyant of over 20 years experience and would like to take an opportunty to say something positive in regards of John (TI-im-T-ravell-OR) Titor’s posts and the man himself.

    “Stripping out the time travel, the bias, the doom and gloom, we’re left with a simple tale of caution and morality, in which we’re warned to keep our minds open, our intentions pure, and our eyes focused only on the truth:”

    The premiss and essence of what JT wrote in original the posts are what need to be activated upon here for ‘all our’ future’s sake.

    To add I had a profectic dream years agao in 1996, I started to write a book of the very clear images that I recieved from this dream. Here are a few points. there are two that correspond with JT and one that is just weird. but will indirectly is does confirm a correllation in our coming future events.

    1) 2015 is when chemical weaponry and nulclear bombs have stopped destroying most of the of the worlds larger city centers. where not is left but just the outlines and bare bones of the stuctures that once held the infrastruster of a city system in place. Their remains are burned out buildings, dust and emptiness.

    2) 1/3 of the population is left behind to survive in smaller communities and homes that are bulit with alternative and natual energies, farming off their land, sharing whatever skills that they had or learned from the past.
    (JT had almost the same dipiction of future life but his poplus loss was only 1/3) …. 1/3 is simliar.

    3) This one is not mentioned by JT but it is indirectly connectED as a proof for by way of, weird as it is, but a proof for me. In my dream I see Blimps or Zepellins. The start point for the Blimp’s travel in my dream is in England. The jorney is to north America over the Atlantic Ocean. The Blimps are used in place of planes. Their is little of the old petrol left and there are to few and too expensive to maintain. The Blimp is more enviromentally viable and therefore used for transportaion over seas for the infrastructure of the earth and it citizens while they are rebuilding. The chance proof came I was doing research on JT. I came acroos a radio show called ‘Coast to Coast’ with George Noorey. The cover of the You Tube link for the show was of a painting dipicting Blimps floating over a river, the Thames it seems. The host of the show was doing and interview update with guest speaker Oliver Willaims on none other then John Titor!

    I have been affirmed and confirmed that what JT was writing in his posts of his future is something that indeed may hppen. I have had similair dream visions to his statements through time travel. Whether or not he is or is not a Time Travller that isn’t for me to judge, but by reading his psots I will say this I have never read anthing with such intellectual ferver in over a 48 hour period. This man is genuine in his premiss and his humanity.

    Thanks Rob,
    Pys Chic

  • http://n/a Constantine DragonRyder

    Honestly what does whole story mean to me? Well seeing as i am a unknown spec in the throngs of some many people, and that it can be hard to believe some things, this has all given me a smile as some idea’s i thought in the past was outrageous could be very possible. Such as Estien’s famous E=MC2 could be Energy = Mass Change squared (theory of time travel), or in 2008 when i toyed with the idea that time is not linear..
    Again yes i know it is hard to take someone like me serious when i said i had toyed with these and many other idea’s not knowing others had the same thoughts…..
    What it all comes down to? As adults we need toe abiltiy to dream and to believe……….i think that was John Titor’s greatest gift to us

  • http://apayaahh@blogspot.com no name

    Hei is it true, not much just some!
    I believe it is truwe

  • Sora

    btw i have some question to john titor who claimed from the future
    just 1 things you must proved to me

    you / someone you know you bring to the past when he/she birth and meet their 2
    ARE SOMEONE WHO MEET THE SAME PERSON TO THE PAST WILL DISAPPEAR FROM THIS WORLD ? GIVE ME A PROVE JOHN TITOR

  • :P

    has anyone thought that him going in to the past may have changed the world line thus creating a world line where the war is staled or stopped. he said “even the slightest divergence can change everything” when he went into the past he must have caused a slight divergence, which meaning he caused this world line to be created because of his effects……. and as he said the grandfather paradox does not exist, and one more thing…… there where 2 johns not just one

  • Hououin Kyouma

    I watched the Steins;Gate anime where the main plot is about time travelling, world lines, divergences and so on and got interested in all that, since I like science fiction. Also, Back to the Future is my favourite movie.
    Also, I like this site :)

    • Rob Schwarz

      Glad you like the blog! And thanks for commenting.

      I still need to see Steins;Gate. I like all that multiple worldlines/time travel stuff a lot, too. And Back to the Future is probably in my top five favorite movies of all time.

      Believe it or not, the movie Somewhere In Time (based on Richard Matheson’s novel Bid Time Return) is what originally got me into John Titor. I saw that movie, it creeped me out a bit, and I went online searching for time travel stuff. That was around 2002-2003, so the Titor story was pretty much over, but it was very cool reading that stuff for the first time.

  • M.D.M

    I rather liked this entry as well. I must say some of it actually makes sense in some respects. If John Titor DID in fact come here to our time in 2000-2001, (not saying he did, just hypothetically that he did) and we consider that our world line is 1-2.5% divergence then one can assume that perhaps his predictions are just delayed. Look at the news. The US government is purchasing ammunition in preparation for a civil war. With the election and the possibility of Obama being reelected there is a slight possibility that people may start revolting in Texas. Of course this is just if you believe the tabloids and articles on the internet. Things may just SEEM bad and just blown out of proportion (I am just assuming anyone who reads this knows what I am talking about.).

    But if a civil war breaks out.. we can assume that the UN may get involved. I do not have any educated guesses for what happens next but I could imagine there is a dispute as to how to solve the problem of the civil war and conflict starts up internally. Of course if this happened it would put John Titor’s predictions for the nuclear war at an earlier date. I only just started looking up things on John Titor today so if I am missing key points of his story I do apologize. Of course this is all hypothetical and I do not believe that the story is true. I do though find something quite uncanny about his predictions and the events that have coincided with things he said, even if some of the dates and events are off.

    In any case brilliant blog entry. This is something that brought my curiosity to another level. Even if what he said was a hoax, he definitely had good predicting skills on the world for the future. Anyway I am completely open to discussion if anyone wishes to start one on this.

    • Rob Schwarz

      I pretty much agree with everything you said.

      As far as Titor himself goes, I don’t believe he was a time traveler, either. But I do think his story is interesting, and it really is uncanny how close his “predictions” came to being reality. I mean, if you follow his narrative and consider the “worldline divergence,” you can almost -feel- how we’re living in a worldline very, very close to his, just not quite. It’s weird (and also a great way to make your hoax bulletproof).

      At any rate, whenever I write about John Titor, or really any paranormal or fringe topic…I don’t necessarily believe any of it, but I have enough of an open mind to at least be curious. To give it a fair shot. If something’s -too- crazy, I avoid it, but Titor’s story contains just enough truth to make you wonder…

      And I agree with you about the media — they do blow things out of proportion. It, I think, gives us a distorted worldview a lot of the time.

      Thanks for reading and leaving a comment!

  • Tyler Reinelt

    I have read a great deal of information and the original posts by “John Titor” But the most fascinating thing i found was this piece of information.

    http://www.johntitorfoundation.com/

    Apparently it’s a website that show’s the time eras and divergence lines % of John-1 and John-2

    Take a look it’s really cool.

  • Nolie

    I learned of the John Titor story about two years ago and immediately became enthralled. Using the words “fascinated” and even “obsessed” are understatements. There are countless stories (fiction and non) of time travel to be read out there. NONE appear to have been as captivating as the story of JT. Of all of the threads in cyberspace, this story alone perpetuates itself over and over. It has transcended more than a decade without positive proof that the actual author is a fraud, or the real deal. Even those that do NOT believe have gone out of their way to prove their disbelief, yet still without affirmative proof. Some threads about John Titor are seemingly dead, sitting idle for years. Then they suddenly spring to life. There is a man claiming to be John Titor with endless conviction at http://www.godlikeproductions.com. After 36 pages of questions and answers, I finally came to my own conclusion that THIS John Titor was a fake. No one can prove how, but the feeling of the original JT is not there. This person tries too hard to convince others. This leads me to elaborate on my point about “feeling” that this particular blog touched on, and which is also why I decided to post a comment.

    First of all I want to thank the author of this blog for displaying MORE THAN ANYTHING an open mind and some common sense. The “feeling” that was so compelling about the original JT story was the fact that this person seemingly did not care if he was believed. In fact, he candidly used this as a doorway into the hearts and minds of the readers. This blog is the FIRST I have come across to use as a point of reference. I believe the writer of this blog mentioned “Back to the Future” as a favorite movie, which brings me to another point. In BTTF II, Marty completely alters his version of 1985 by taking the sports almanac. He never had any intention of doing so and was even warned about the repercussions. Marty threw the almanac away, but Biff was waiting in the wings with his own plot. Many could say that Biff altered the timeline, but if Marty never seeks the sports almanac in the first place, then Biff never has the opportunity to retrieve it from the trash. I know I’m referencing a movie here, but stay with me. I have a point. The original John Titor admittedly deviated from his mission for “personal reasons”. He even stated in a post that he was in a “new 1998″ and that he had “been through this with us before but we wouldn’t listen anyway”, which alludes to the IDEA that he continuously tried to warn us, but because of our narrow mindedness, he could not definitively reach us all. THAT John Titor (the original John Titor), left this worldline in 2001 with only his warnings and his messages as his legacy.

    In summary, is it not possible that his deviation from his mission created such a significant enough divergence to offset what was supposed to be? That, coupled with the simple power of suggestion, altered our worldline enough to create a completely different future

  • http://- Kyu

    John titor said that he went to 1975 to meet his father(the one who made the IBM 5100).So the inventor of IBM 5100 is his father,which means his son is John Titor,right?So who’s the inventor?

  • jennifer

    If you noticed he said he was upstairs and was 2 years old in 2000 – in 2036 He is 38 years old so he stated, he talked about UFO show he watched in this year 2012 that was a UK tv show, only thing I found was a 70′s UFO show based in UK, And a movie called UFO that comes out Dec. 15th based in UK….

    He does not state anything about getting out of his 4 wheel drive truck, he only states you need to be buckled in at all times, thus being said how did he use a computer to hop on a forum and post all that stuff? Or how is he living with his parents if he said he has to stay buckled in??

    As for predictions, this is someone who has spent time reading on politics, and the IBM, he also stated he picked supernatural chat rooms because he felt they would listen to him and be opened to it, but the few that was in that chat room sounded not to care what he was stating some got bored and went to bed lol…. Pure coincidence he studied a few things and read about all that stuff then when into a chat and revealed he was a time traveler. I am not buying it… too far fetch, and usually gut instinct is ALWAYS right!! This was some young punk back then in 2000 I use to open chat rooms on AOL, and there was a lot of punks coming in them and ruining the vibe, and talk none sense stuff like this, and I think that is what happened, this time traveler could been way over dosed on drugs to be talking in that way…

  • Kanishka

    Very hard to believe…. its like a movie.. :D
    why cant John Titor bring a photograph from the future to prove….
    May be he can travel from mind but not with the body that is impossible.

  • Uhno

    Yeah ok. Has anyone asked why he was so vague? Why does he not name the President? Why? Because he is a hoax.
    2016. Marco Rubio runs against Hillary Clinton. Hillary wins. I wont tell you who the vice is. Heres a hint though. He was a republican and a Governor.
    The ipad can be rolled up and stuck inyour back pocket in seven years. Its no longer called an Ipad though. Apple has been bought out and new company is called Gauge. Nope. No joke.
    Cancer scandal 12 years from now. Yep. Was a cure. Way back in 1991.
    Middle East still a problem. Only they no longer own oil.
    Hillary will run again. She will lose to Marco Rubio.
    Another war in 2023. Europe. No joke.
    Save this.

    • Rob Schwarz

      He was vague because, yes, he was likely a hoax. Most of these stories are…

      Interesting predictions, though! I promise your comment will be saved right here for posterity.

    • futurist

      Yes
      you are right about the cancer Cure.
      They want to kill 1/2 the worlds population or more by giving them cancer.

  • Fil

    Time-lines will tell, maybe not ours though.

  • Megs

    I’m curious about this UHNO guy ^^^ up there, why and how does he know those things? Also, it seems unlikely that J.T. would ultimately end up back in 2036 to a world that he would be accustomed to. To travel ‘back on the same world line to point ‘C’ and then go forward from point ‘B’ back to the future point ‘A’, wouldn’t there be additional world lines created from D to C and B and finally back to A? It seems with that much divergence, there would be no way to correctly predict anything, let alone end up back where J. T. started.. Just sayin’. Great post! I’m thoroughly hooked on your site and the several posts about John Titor, Thanks for devoting your time to wild imaginations =)

    • Rob Schwarz

      Can’t answer your first question (not sure he can, either, ha). As to your second…I think I remember John Titor saying that, no, he wouldn’t end up back in the exact same worldline, but it’d be close enough. Kind of a troubling thought.

      I think the point of jumping “back” before going forward was just to get the worldlines to match up as closely as possible, so he wouldn’t follow any lines that he, himself, had interfered with. Finding his way back to that initial line, to before he had arrived, would mean the worldline divergence wouldn’t be too drastic. Or so the story goes.

      Glad you like the blog! At the end of the day, these are just stories, so I try not to take things too seriously. Well, usually. Thanks for reading.

  • JJ

    The american civil war prediction was off by 8 years. I highly suggest you prepare now. the country will not even be recognizable by august.

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