Has John Titor’s World War 3 Already Begun?

By on November 23, 2015 // Time Travel // 9 Comments

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There’s been a lot of talk about World War 3 lately. After the horrific terrorist attacks in Paris this month, Pope Francis declared that we are now in the middle of a “piecemeal” world war. King Abdullah of Jordan shared a similar opinion, stating that “we are facing a third world war against humanity.” One that will bring us all together.

These cries of a new world war may seem hyperbolic, but I’m far more interested in the fact that we’re even having this conversation at this particular moment in time. Not to mention that Russia is now, by all indications, playing a far greater role in this worldwide fight against the terror of ISIS.

“…the war in the Middle East is a part of what’s to come, not the cause.” – December 13, 2000

Fifteen years ago, John Titor said the following: “A world war in 2015 killed nearly 3 billion people.” On his timeline, it was a nuclear war, with Russia striking the major cities of the United States, China, and Europe.

On this worldline, thankfully, we’re nowhere near that series of events. And with only 38 days left in the year, it’s unlikely we’ll see anything like Titor’s apocalyptic war. Not yet.

But just as with Titor’s proclamations of growing civil unrest, a destabilized western society, and a United States president who would be likened to Abraham Lincoln, I can’t help but keep noticing these little glimpses of the world John Titor described in his original posts.

Echoes of a world that could have been, or may still happen. If only things were just slightly different…

2.5% Divergence

I’ve always made it a point when discussing John Titor’s “predictions” to mention the 2.5% worldline divergence. As Titor said, the farther he traveled through time, the more worldlines would diverge. They would be different.

“If I go forward on this worldline, the future will not be my future. I get home by going back to 1975 before I arrived and then going forward to 2036.

Your deductions are quite accurate. Its possible to go forward to ‘your’ 2036 and it would look nothing like mine.”

But Titor also said something else regarding this divergence:

“Some things that are quite different on one worldline have very little effect as time passes and the worldlines appear to ‘converge’ again and look very similar. Worldline changes are not exponential; they act more like chaotic attractors with varying effect depending on their size and location.”

The paths and the dates may change, but there’s a possibility that the destination will remain the same.

I don’t know if any of this means anything. I’m still not convinced that John Titor was an actual time traveler. Perhaps he simply knew something, or was very prescient. But he said a world war would occur in 2015 — and now some are claiming, right on cue, that World War 3 has already begun.

It’s strange how these things happen.

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  • Lewy Lewy

    looney tune

    • Proud American

      have an open mind

    • Adam Weisshaupt

      Most Americans have been taught to reflexively reject all information if they think it comes from an untrustworthy source. A Broken Clock isn’t even right twice a day to them. They simply lack the intellectual skill to evaluate a message independent of the messenger. And sadly this is something the public schools have fostered – it promotes tribalism , making it easier to play groups against one another for political purposes, and depresses independent thought and analysis.
      (And yes, my kids are already getting in trouble in school because I taught them to question everything and try to figure it out themselves. )

      I don’t have to believe John Titor was a time traveler to evaluate the plausibility of his accounts of a world war. Maybe John was just really good at predicting future trends, and was just war gaming a story. . Who knows? All we can do is compare what he said to our reality and see where it matches – and where it doesn’t. (simply ask that question and you help protect yourself from confirmation bias.)

    • Skg

      You are right. I think he is accurate in his predictions (from the limited info that I’ve read). My concern is exactly that we are not a people that can stop it. Sheep need a leader, like a real one not fake and disengenuous. My hope is that out of rising up, growth and positive change will happen after the horror.

  • dd

    titor can’t STOP THAT WAR BY HIMSELF the ONLY THING THAT HE CAN DO IS TO DELAYED IT BY REVEALING IT US in the past

  • TimeLord

    There are 11 hours left for world war 3 to occur and brutally murder ‘3 billion’ people.

  • LeadFarmerMF

    He was right about one thing… “Perhaps I should let you all in on a little secret. No one likes you in the future. This time period is looked at as being full of lazy, self-centered, civically ignorant sheep. Perhaps you should be less concerned about me and more concerned about that.”

  • Proud American

    Russia is now doing massive civil emergency drills with 40 million people> hummm so maybe Russia will knock out Government and military bases, what does Russia care? most of the needed Russians will be down in a big beautiful city size bunker..Pretty smart I say, however what is so sad, and I thought Id never say this but how America has been behaving most other countries would shake his hand..I think if John Titor was real, he might of tried to stop some things and maybe even postponed the war 10 years or so, everything he stated is starting to happen, we are almost having civil wars now..God Bless All

  • Adam Weisshaupt

    John also implied that he fixed the Y2K problem in our timeline to a point where it wasn’t a big deal. If we avoided a cataclysmic economic hit because of that, the 2005 civil war in John’s time line could have been pushed out, and our timeline could simply be roughly following his own delayed by 10 years or so. We know for certain tat the economic situation hasn’t gotten better – so if that is a prime mover for these events ( It usually is for a war) we may still see this all happen.

    Even if not a genuine time traveler , John was pretty astute to notice the City/Country divide in 2000 – and predict it trough to where we are now. A large swath of the country would feel Russia had attacked their enemy if Russia nuked Washington DC (politicians of either party) or New York City ( .the cronies of the govt)

    Get on Nukemap and look at detonations in the Kiloton range. Russia has about 40% 100 kT warheads and about 40% 800kt warheads- and most of those are past their shelf life ( which is why Russia is building a new system) . The fact of the matter is megaton warheads deliver less destruction per Kg of weight- and its more economic on missile payload heft to use multiple smaller warheads. If megaton weapons are used they will most likely be delivered by bomber. (China has larger nukes on missiles, but that is China) 25 REM is enough radiation to make you sick, and you can map the 100% no burn circle and the glass breaking circle. Oh, not the destruction you were terrified of as a kid in the cold war, huh? John said they mostly came in threes. So use three detonations. Um, yeah, still not even getting all of the suburbs is it?

    The most disappointing detail in John’s account is that the bombs were detonated low – kicking up a huge cloud of fallout. But that is an OPTION. You can do as much if not more damage (depending on the type of damage you are after) by doing an airburst- and the fallout form an air burst is much, much less. Given fallout’s propensity to travel, its in both sides best interest to NOT do ground bursts.

    In the end though, John wanted to return to his own time rather than stay “safe” in our time with the decadent, self-centered, unaware culture we struggle with. Down with the 1%? That is everyone in America. 99% of the world has a lower standard of living. I think a number of us would take Hard and Honest over what we see happening today..

    It should be obvious as John Titor said. With the riots, the illegal Boston house to house searches ( for a bleeding man – ever hear of a blood hound?) , the vote rigging and failure of rule of law. ..its time to get out of the cities.